Need IVS Trumpcard Boot Disk

Riv · Newcomer Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 6

I've got an old Trumpcard 2000, which is driving me crazy.

This is an early, Rev. 1 card. It has a jumper labeled DMA and two others that are used for setting IRQ.

The only disk that seems to work with it is the original one, which is labeled version 1.3. Unfortunately, it's been made into a boot disk and I think that may be one of the problems I'm having.

This card has a 1.5 Auto Boot Rom.

If anyone has any disk files besides the ones commonly available, you'd be helping me out immensely.

Thanks!

Thrashie · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7950
the driver they linked there might work
or maybe changing the slot works

Riv · Newcomer Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 6

Thanks, I appreciate the info.

I tried that one already as well. I've actually got 3 different driver disks, which use their utility (TCUtils) with revisions 2.2, 2.5, and 2.7. I can seem to format the drive and partition it, and even "install workbench" (which copies files from that particular floppy to the hard drive.) Still, the drive won't boot at all.

I've tried to use the ivs_scsi.device driver that's on each of those disks on a 2.1 Install disk in conjunction with HDToolbox, but all of those come up "Driver Not Found." Looks like it's formatted but nothing can see it.

I've read that you can boot with the left mouse button down to bring the hard drive up but that doesn't work. I also have tried to boot with both mouse buttons down to bring up the boot menu, but all that happens when either the left or both mouse buttons are held down at boot is the hard drive light comes on and ~may~ be flickering slightly, but nothing happens. It never comes up to a boot menu.

I was also surprised to find the dma jumper on the card, as I understand that the Trumpcard didn't use DMA. Strangely, I've tried both options with apparent success formatting the drive.

Right now the card is as it came to me in the computer, and that's with no jumpers installed at all. If I jumper either the IRQ2 or IRQ6 jumpers then the 2000 won't boot from floppy either. The HD itself is a Seagate ST157n set for SCSI ID0. I've tried it with both Parity and No Parity options selectes.
I could very well be missing out on something very stupid, as I haven't used an Amiga in probably 15 years. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd really appreciate hearing about them.

Riv · Newcomer Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 6

Sorry - I just realized that I may not have been very clear in my original post.

The way that the Trumpcard installation disk works is that you install the software using the utility and then at the end you have an option to change that disk to be used as a boot disk. I think that's what a previous user did to my only copy of the 1.3 disk that actually came with the card.

Now once I run the utilities on the 1.3 version I can quit the setup utility, but then the computer looks for DH0, which it cannot find. That is the default name for the drive.

It's all very confusing.

Oh - and no luck with HDinstall either. It doesn't see the drive.

If anyone knows how to set up that or HDToolbox to format this drive with this card, that would be fantastic. Unfortunately it's the only hard card that I have right now.

Riv · Newcomer Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 6

Okay - so I've had a little success. I managed to get the Hard Drive installed and working with WB 1.3 and using a separate boot floppy.

Now, I've got Kickstart 2.05 installed and would like to be able to auto boot the hard drive with WB 2.1. I'm kind of afraid to try to do much more for fear of messing something up, but I'm sure that it can be done.

I've got a couple of later versions of the install software (TCUtils and TCUtils2) that I can try, but to be honest, I'm not sure if those only work with WB 1.3 as well, or if they'll let me install 2.1.

HDToolbox and HDInstall are just NOT working, even with IVS_SCSI.device in the devs folder of their floppy.

Anyone have any words of wisdom they'd be willing to share?

Thanks!

Thrashie · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:38 pm Post subject:

this seems somewhat similar to your issue
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35685

probably not a bad idea to also post same topic there

lifeschool · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:50 pm Post subject:

I've been reading your posts with interest over the last couple of days. I used to have an Alpha Data Oktagon 2008 installed in an A2000 (i.e. an A500 with a Bodega Bay) - so I know the kinds of issues you're experiencing. The problem with the Oktagon was that it had no auto-boot rom, and so the Oktagon.device had to be booted into ram before the hardware would be recognised, - so this required a 'boot disk' of some description. As my IDE controllers didn't seem to need a boot disk, and SCSI controllers did, I eventually installed an IDE card with a very dodgy IDE drive (which was automatically found and auto-booted) - and simply had the IDE drive mount and boot the SCSI. I know it seems long winded to boot a SCSI drive using an IDE, but that's what I did. The IDE in question was corrupt down to the core, but I just managed to make a 1MB partition for it (out of 80MB) and stuck all the boot code onto it.

The alternative would be to set up a RAD drive (which TSR's itself into memory) and copy all the mechanics to that. This ram drive should survive resets, and will auto-boot if you configure it, so that you only need to copy the drivers to RAD at the start of your session.

I had a look at you card, here: http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=1213

Appearantly the card comes with a WB1.2/1.3 jumper. Lord knows why? Leave it set to 1.3. If you have KS2 and WB2, there should be absolutely no problem booting it up as before. You'll still have the issue of getting the device driver loaded to begin with, but after that the KS will just call S:startup-sequence as usual. Just copy all the files over from the WB2 disks, go into S and rename the startup-sequence to startup-sequence.floppy, and the startup-sequence.HD to startup-sequence.

Hope that's of some use.

Riv · Newcomer Joined: 18 May 2011 Posts: 6

Thanks so much for the response.

I'm still having issues and I'm not completely sure that they can be resolved.

The Trumpcard 2000 that I have is an early revision. Unlike the one that's shown on that page, this one has no jumper for KS1.2/KS1.3. It does, however, have a jumper labeled DMA. (Since I've read that this card does not support DMA, I find this surprising.) It does have a ROM labeled TC Autoboot ROM 1.5.

I have managed so far to get WB 2.1 loaded onto the Hard Drive, although it will not auto boot. It appears that there may be a boot partition on the drive, but I have no way to check that. If anyone has any suggestions of how I can do so, please feel free to fill me in.

I've still been trying to get either HDToolbox or HDInstalltools to run with the ivs_scsi.device driver, but HDToolbox keeps coming up with "Driver Not Found." HDInstalltools reports that no devices have been found. Even when HDInstalltools keeps flashing the HD LED, it still reports no device found.

I feel that if I could get one of those to run I might be able to reinitialize the drive and get it to autoboot, but I'm not certain.

Also, I don't know if this card is intended to use the RigidDiskBlock that some of the other Amiga cards use. Anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks again!