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Kong Daddy
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 Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: Why are high profile franchises in love with retro clueless? |
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I ended up on part of the History of Amiga (part 6:Stopping the blood) and once again some clueless twat who knows sweet FA about something as basic as A500 and A1000 difference.
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| Quote: | He assigned Jeff Porter, the engineer who had developed the innovative (but canceled by Rattigan's predecessor) LCD computer, to be the director of new product development. The lead engineers for the 500 were George Robbins and Bob Welland, who had previously worked on the also-canceled Commodore 900 Unix workstation. They were an odd bunch to be tasked with coming up with the computer that had to save the company, but in many respects they echoed the rogue team of misfits that had come up with the Amiga in the first place. George Robbins, a gentle and kind man with long hair and a walrus mustache, practically lived at work and often forgot to do his laundry. His coworkers, who loved Robbins, but worried about his personal hygiene, would constantly buy him new shirts to wear and quietly dispose of the old ones.
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OK that's all nice and twee and a waste of time but required quoting so you know we are talking 1986 BEFORE A500 was built...ie stock 512kb KS 1.2 A500 with original Agnus....the same f^%$ing Agnus as in ALL PAL A1000s....with you know the same capabilities like EHB.
Anyway it continues....and here is where the clueless muppet wrote it evidence is apparent....
| Quote: | Robbins........was intensely focused on cutting costs on the Amiga. Welland was the ideas man, while Robbins was the practical engineer who could take great ideas and turn them into working electronics.
One of the ideas Welland had was to increase the RAM on the "Agnes" custom chip to 1MB so that the Amiga could support higher graphics resolutions.....
"Fat Agnes" did end up working, and the original Amiga engineers admitted that the design was probably a good idea. The modest change increased the Amiga's capabilities |
What a load of bollox,
A500 had original Agnus in a different physical form factor, and had the same capabilities as the rectangular Agnus. It was 512kb Chip ram limited too.
Fat Agnus was much later, and STILL had the same 320x256x32 colour restriction and 640x512x16 for high res. It was identical to the original Agnus of A1000 except for the fact it could access all 1mb of the A500's internal memory (which is not good anyway as it slows the Amiga down!!)
Obese Agnus (in conjunction with ECS Super Denise), added some obscure piece of shit screen modes in 1991 or something with 4 colours in 1280x256. Woophee f^$£"ing doo, I'm sure Sega and Nintendo were shitting their pants when they saw that increase in ability of Amiga graphics STILL stuck with 32 mot%$^ER^ing colours and no parallax and shit sprites, half a decade and same blitter bandwidth etc 
This is even worse than the clueless morons doing the Amiga special for Retrogamer magazine proclaimed the A500 launched in 1987 was technically superior in graphics and sound to the A1000. IT'S THE SAME F$^$ING THING! All that's different is some twat thought it was a good idea to have an EXTERNAL TV modulator and doesn't have an on/off switch on the machine. FS even the original ST with external A500 style PSUs had an on/off switch.
Am I the last person on earth who actually has a clue about Amiga, and it's capabilities, because sometimes it sure as hell feels like it 
The guy who designed the A500 was a KNOB! And Rattigan was as big a clueless twat as Medhi Ali. He managed to alienate ALL THREE Amiga chipset designers in the space of 12 months, and Jay/RJ/Needle left by 1987. RJ and Needle went on to design 3DO and Lynx chipset.
But Rattigan (in charge of CBM) laid the path for Commodore to be stuck with useless engineers like George Robbins and Bob Welland. Pair of dickheads, and it's because Commodore favoured useless engineers who never once improved the chipset to compete with SEGA Megadrive or VGA PC all around in 1988. No need to have more colours in lo-res or real parallax or how about 2 Paula chips for 8 channel sound to compete with 64 colour triple true parallax 10 channel sound equiped £175 Sega Megadrive....oh no....let's just create useless screen modes like 1280x256x4 colours or DBL PAL/productivity that no gamer wants and use the same f&%ing sound/blitter chip for 10 years in ALL Amigas from £300 to £2500!
Here's a nice bit of evidence to some up how clueless the new Commodore CEO after Tramiel left was really....
| Quote: | | Rattigan had to choose between the remnants of the original Los Gatos crew who had designed the Amiga 1000 and Commodore's core group of engineers in West Chester, Pennsylvania. He chose the latter group because he felt they would be "more bloodthirsty" and thus likely to deliver the machine faster. |
So after chopping the balls off the team who CREATED the Amiga chipset, he then chooses a couple of idiots who never worked on C64 or Amiga to design a new Amiga, and thought they would be more talented? Oh yeah and the A500 was a year late...identical to the A1000 except for 512kb RAM and KS on ROM. And because A500 was a year late, this clueless CEO didn't even promote the A1000......he sat on his fat ass watching people buy OTHER computers and didn't even help the dealers with any kind of advertising campaign for a whole year.
And people wonder why Amiga didn't get any love at Commodore...whilst Commodore's pathetic Westchester engineers were pissing about with ECS Denise and Obese Agnus....RJ Mical and Dave Needle were designing the 3DO chipset on the back of a paper napkin....the same people that were once employed by Commodore and replaced by two idiots building the original 1987 A500 and others of their ilk 
PS yes the A500 was necessary, I totally agree price wise, my issue is the engineers tasked with building it! RJ/Needle/Jay wanted to build a console type computer with floppy drive and detachable keyboard for games players in a low cost machine BEFORE Commodore asked for A1000. They are NOT the bad guys here! And I now see exactly who is to blame for the Amiga chipset seeing less action from 1985-1995 than a 40stone hooker with Aids
He's called Rattigan...and I hope he's not rich or comfortable at all in his age and in a living hell with Medhi Ali if there is a god ditto for those two clueless muppets working on A500 prototype ) |
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Yup Kong all pretty irritating, what really annoys the heck out of me at the moment is all this stuff about the X1000 - the true Amiga element died at birth so many many years ago.. as Amiga users we've been surfing on the original wave ever since.
The A500 was pretty much a repackaged A1000 even to the point of expandability - everything that followed up to the demise of Commodore (and beyond) lacked any kind of equally comparative innovation.
The Amiga (A1000) was a fantastic computer, only ever slightly modified throughout that era and given their own nice numbers.
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